Comments on: How to Solve a Problem like Cufón http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/ Wed, 19 May 2010 18:28:50 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: john http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-397 john Wed, 19 May 2010 18:28:50 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-397 What I'm saying is include it in the price. Besides, most of the time when you purchase fonts the EULA restricts web usage. What I’m saying is include it in the price.

Besides, most of the time when you purchase fonts the EULA restricts web usage.

]]> By: Bruce http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-396 Bruce Wed, 19 May 2010 18:17:36 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-396 My concern with pulling something from an external source is the same as with any other asset. If the external source is down, your page is slow to load, design looks off, user gets frustrated etc. Besides, if the font is already purchased I'd not want to pay a separate fee to access the cufon file. My concern with pulling something from an external source is the same as with any other asset. If the external source is down, your page is slow to load, design looks off, user gets frustrated etc.

Besides, if the font is already purchased I’d not want to pay a separate fee to access the cufon file.

]]> By: john http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-179 john Thu, 28 May 2009 22:07:02 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-179 Hey, this is what I was saying --> http://blog.typekit.com/2009/05/27/introducing-typekit Hey, this is what I was saying –>

http://blog.typekit.com/2009/05/27/introducing-typekit

]]> By: john http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-167 john Thu, 21 May 2009 06:54:43 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-167 I look forward to it ;) I look forward to it ;)

]]> By: Tea Curran http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-166 Tea Curran Thu, 21 May 2009 05:18:07 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-166 After a lot of thought, I think there is something foundries can do to come to a compromise with designers but it will take some big changes to their business process. I am working up a longer response for tomorrow. After a lot of thought, I think there is something foundries can do to come to a compromise with designers but it will take some big changes to their business process. I am working up a longer response for tomorrow.

]]> By: john http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-165 john Wed, 20 May 2009 23:05:21 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-165 thanks for link Johno, but my eyes are also heavy. Too heavy for all that green on black!! ;) thanks for link Johno, but my eyes are also heavy. Too heavy for all that green on black!! ;)

]]> By: johno http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-164 johno Wed, 20 May 2009 23:02:09 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-164 Unfortunately, it just isn’t a workable solution. First, users would be relying on the hosting and bandwidth of foundries, many of which are small, one-person outfits. Second, you’d need to have everyone agree on a method of authentication of those licenses. There are several other problems, but my eyes are closing, and my brain shutting down. This far, I think Tal Leming’s proposals make the most sense. Well worth a read: http://talleming.com/2009/04/21/web-fonts/ Anyway, good that you’re rasing the issue. There certainly needs to be more dialogue. Unfortunately, it just isn’t a workable solution. First, users would be relying on the hosting and bandwidth of foundries, many of which are small, one-person outfits. Second, you’d need to have everyone agree on a method of authentication of those licenses. There are several other problems, but my eyes are closing, and my brain shutting down.
This far, I think Tal Leming’s proposals make the most sense. Well worth a read:
http://talleming.com/2009/04/21/web-fonts/

Anyway, good that you’re rasing the issue. There certainly needs to be more dialogue.

]]> By: john http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-163 john Wed, 20 May 2009 22:51:14 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-163 @tea, Cufón does offer some protection, but that is not the point. This is a suggestion as to how best to apply security, as apposed to the simply circumvented system currently employed. @jeff Yes this is true, but how many amongst us use google to store jQuery as apposed to our own sites for speed? If the servers are good enough, then it would be a mild risk. Granted, paying too much extra for it would have a negative impact, but that would be market driven. Many designers/developers within the industry want to do right by their typographers, but the premium has to balance the benefit, else they'll quickly return to the less secure methods currently employed. @tea,

Cufón does offer some protection, but that is not the point. This is a suggestion as to how best to apply security, as apposed to the simply circumvented system currently employed.

@jeff

Yes this is true, but how many amongst us use google to store jQuery as apposed to our own sites for speed? If the servers are good enough, then it would be a mild risk.

Granted, paying too much extra for it would have a negative impact, but that would be market driven. Many designers/developers within the industry want to do right by their typographers, but the premium has to balance the benefit, else they’ll quickly return to the less secure methods currently employed.

]]> By: Jeff L http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-162 Jeff L Wed, 20 May 2009 21:41:31 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-162 My concern with pulling something from an external source is the same as with any other asset. If the external source is down, your page is slow to load, design looks off, user gets frustrated etc. Besides, if the font is already purchased I'd not want to pay a separate fee to access the cufon file. My concern with pulling something from an external source is the same as with any other asset. If the external source is down, your page is slow to load, design looks off, user gets frustrated etc.

Besides, if the font is already purchased I’d not want to pay a separate fee to access the cufon file.

]]> By: Tea Curran http://mildfuzz.com/2009/05/how-to-solve-a-problem-like-cufon/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Tea Curran Wed, 20 May 2009 20:59:07 +0000 http://mildfuzz.com/?p=64#comment-161 This doesn't really solve any problem. People that are going to use cufon with commercial fonts have already paid the foundry for the font. The issue is that cufon doesn't offer even the slightest protection against theft, it is exactly the same as someone buying a font and posting the .ttf file to their blog or whatever. I think the best thing designers can do is pressure firefox and safari to suppor the @font-face tag which contains embedding protection. This doesn’t really solve any problem. People that are going to use cufon with commercial fonts have already paid the foundry for the font. The issue is that cufon doesn’t offer even the slightest protection against theft, it is exactly the same as someone buying a font and posting the .ttf file to their blog or whatever.

I think the best thing designers can do is pressure firefox and safari to suppor the @font-face tag which contains embedding protection.

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